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		<title>Are People Abusing The Cash For Clunkers Program?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn’t have believed it, unless I saw it with my own eyes, but I think I saw my first Cash for Clunkers scam. I’m not 100% sure if that’s what it is, but the cynic in me thinks so. Take a look for yourself. This seller managed to trade in a vehicle, presumably worth [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn’t have believed it, unless I saw it with my own eyes, but I think I saw my first <a href="http://www.cars.gov/">Cash for Clunkers</a> scam.  I’m not 100% sure if that’s what it is, but the cynic in me thinks so.  Take a look for yourself.</p>
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<p><a href="http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/1310099926.html"><img src="http://www.lindenlan.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fit_scam.gif" alt="fit_scam" title="fit_scam" width="609" height="565" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-332" /></a></p>
<p>This seller managed to trade in a vehicle, presumably worth less than the voucher, otherwise they would’ve straight up sold it.  What they ended up paying for the Fit is $15480 — 4500 = $10980.  That $11000 is presumably financed because if you had over $10000 in disposable income, I can’t see how you’d be hard-up for money.  Shopping around you could get 5% and beat the 7% average, and of course the auto dealer may want a piece of that pie and try to beat 5%.  In any case, we’re looking at just over $200 for a 5 year loan.  A $200 car payment is quite affordable if your other expenses aren’t outrageous.  If this seller could not get a $200 monthly payment, they’ve got bad credit or they don’t know how to negotiate or shop around for the best rate.  In any case, the monthly payment would have been disclosed to them ahead of time, and they would’ve known if they could afford it, impulse buy or not.  Their excuse about overextending themselves sounds dubious.  Anyhow, they’re willing to knock $1000 off their asking price, which is $14480.  After paying off their loan, they pocket $3500 in cash.  So unless their clunker was worth more than $3500, they made money, perhaps up to an extra $1000 or more, not to mention all the time saved from not having to post their car or haggle over the price.  </p>
<p>Am I being cynical?  Perhaps this person did just make a financial mistake.  I would’ve given them the benefit of the doubt until I saw this listing posted 2 days before:</p>
<p><a href="http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/1305545294.html"><img src="http://www.lindenlan.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/fit_scam2.jpg" alt="fit_scam2" title="fit_scam2" width="614" height="897" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-334" /></a></p>
<p>I mean, really?  Who turns around and resells a high-demand car with only 14 miles on it?  Or one that’s still at the dealer?  Two different people in two days?  </p>
<p>At least the program is more or less doing its job, and the realist in me understands that people abuse situations all the time.  There’s always a few bad eggs no matter what.  </p>
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		<title>Honda Wa Baka!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 23:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I went test driving cars this past weekend. One of the cars I sampled was a Honda Civic. The 2006 redesign is one slick puppy I must admit. Acceleration, handling, and responsiveness are top notch for a car in this class. Unbelievably, my tall frame can actually fit in the backseat. Plus it sips [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I went test driving cars this past weekend.  One of the cars I sampled was a <a href="http://automobiles.honda.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=Civic+Sedan">Honda Civic</a>.  The 2006 redesign is one slick puppy I must admit.  Acceleration, handling, and responsiveness are top notch for a car in this class.   Unbelievably, my tall frame can actually fit in the backseat.  Plus it sips gas, an all important consideration, now more so given rising gas prices.  It has an impressive list of standard features and it pretty much comes down to not which package but which trim you want—whether it be the one of the three standard trims, the eco-friendly hybrid (though the Prius is still the reigning king in this class), or the sporty Si.  There are available options for customizing the trim even further, but other than fog lights, many are simply superfluous.  Yet, since I’ve been considering the Mazda3, the MazdaSpeed3 and the Subaru WRX, I found it rather odd that a 5-door Civic was lacking in Honda’s line-up.  I certainly recall a 5-door being available in past iterations.  It’s not that Honda doesn’t make them, it’s that they don’t sell them to North America.  WTF, Honda?!</p>
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<p>So through research I managed find out that Honda Civic 3-doors and 5-doors are sold in <a href="http://www.honda.co.uk/car/">Europe</a> and other select markets.  It seems to have been designed and manufactured specifically for the continent.  What the Honda designers failed to realize is that something that is universally practical is also universally appealing.  Some car owners, yes even those in America, would prefer more storage space that a 5-door has over a 4-door without having to upgrade to a larger vehicle.  Then get this.  The Civic 4-door has a 40/60 split rear seat as an <em>option</em>.  For the 5-door it’s <em>standard</em> and what’s even cooler about the ones in the 5-door is that not only do they fold flat, but they also fold up!  Brilliant!  The problem with 40/60 split seats in sedans is you have to deal with that annoying hole between the trunk space and rear space that’s never quite big enough for your bulky long items.  It’s been a pet peave of mine with the Honda Accord and Mitsubishi Mirage I’ve owned and it’s why I’ve been researching hatchbacks.</p>
<p>Besides oozing practicality the <a href="http://www.autoblog.com/2005/03/01/honda-civic-concept-european-spec-five-door/">European Civic</a> is downright sporty-looking in it’s <em>base</em> class, not just the <a href="http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2070129.006/country/jcf/Honda/honda-civic-type-r-and-type-s-in-depth">Type R and Type S trims</a>.  Granted I like the lines on the US Civic, it just doesn’t appeal to me as much as the European model.  I guess Honda USA wanted to protect their investment in the <a href="http://automobiles.honda.com/models/model_overview.asp?ModelName=Fit">Fit</a>.  I mean who’d want that if they got to test drive a Civic 5-door.  </p>
<p>Yet I suppose fair is fair.  The Civic 4-door sedan isn’t available in most European markets except in the hybrid trim.   I guess Honda doesn’t want to take on the Mazda3 5-door, the current king in its class.</p>
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